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FyrFytr998 · Nov 27, 2009, 05:53 AM // 05:53

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Originally Posted by l Alucard l

Lets be real here,

Those complaining about SF

A. Suck and can't do it
B. Too lazy to make a sin
C. Just like to QQ
D. All of the above

Honestly if you dont like SF DONT PLAY IT! And if you have a perma and still want it nerfed ur either a liar or you suck at it.

Keep SF, if you dont use it then dont use it. QQ over a video game with an imaginary economy moar plz

You forgot one.

E. The players who lose money in power trading because SF makes it easier for players to get items themselves.

Farming builds can be a boon and a bane. It's all great when a few are prospering off a gimmick build, but once the prices start to drop when a build goes public. Well hold on, let's get out the nerf bat.

No one has still answered why doing an elite area with a speed clear hurts them in real life. It doesn't. It just sounds like sour grapes. As I said before, I was in a guild that used to do FoW armor runs in between 30 to 45 minutes way back when before SF and speed clears. I was and still am proud of it. Just because an SF group can clear ALL of FoW in that time or less now means nothing to me. It doesn't detract from what I did in the least to me. It seems that's not the case with other players.

Here's another news flash boys. In real life, girls aren't interested in the size of your e-peen. And you can't pay for a date with ecto. There really are more important things in life to be worrying about.

l Alucard l · Nov 27, 2009, 05:59 AM // 05:59

"No one has still answered why doing an elite area with a speed clear hurts them in real life."

lmao best thing posted yet.

When i came back to gw it was fowsc/uwsc. All i had was a necro,war,monk,ranger. What did i do? Learn mop/vale, 100b, UA, EoE. Then a few days ago i make a perma and now do t1/t2/mob/mt. Even before perma i had a way to participate in elite areas easily and made lots of $$. Idk bout anyone else but now that i have a perma i say - perma is FUN.

I dont care what anyone else says that to me is fun. Doing T1 is the most fun ive had in this game since the old tombs.

BlackSephir · Nov 27, 2009, 06:32 AM // 06:32

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Originally Posted by l Alucard l

Lets be real here,

Yes, lets.

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A. Suck and can't do it

Can't press 123 or even 12? Wow, you lil' farmers really think you're doing something complicated and difficult, eh?

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B. Too lazy to make a sin

It takes about 10 clicks to make a sin. Try harder, especially if you're the one who wanted to be real.

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C. Just like to QQ

Damn, you're so cool and original.

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D. All of the above

Oh, and clever.

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Honestly if you dont like SF DONT PLAY IT!

HONESTLY, THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH SIG OF GHOSTY MIGHT. YOU COULD JUST NOT USE IT!!

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And if you have a perma and still want it nerfed ur either a liar or you suck at it.

Yeah, there's no possibility that some people make profit by perma SFing but still see how broken it is.

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Keep SF, if you dont use it then dont use it. QQ over a video game with an imaginary economy moar plz

I can see you QQing a lot. "BAWWW YOU WANT TO NERF SF BCUZ U SUKK AT IT, LEAVE HER ALONE, LEAVE SF ALONE".
If this is how you "get real" then I pity you.

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No one has still answered why doing an elite area with a speed clear hurts them in real life.

No one EVER has still answered how good ol' Sig of Ghostly Might hurt them in real life.
Revert the bug AN, you've got the greenlight from the "special" people.

Ugh · Nov 27, 2009, 06:38 AM // 06:38

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Originally Posted by l Alucard l

Face it, GW is a video game with an imaginary economy.

GW is a game, everything is imaginary.

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If ur unhappy go play call of duty

Good thinking. "A certain aspect of this game displeases me, I'm going to quit forever and go play a completely unrelated game."

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No one has still answered why doing an elite area with a speed clear hurts them in real life.

No one has still answered why nerfing a skill that allows elite areas to be speed cleared hurts them in real life.

GW is a game, NOTHING about it should affect your real life.

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Here's another news flash boys. In real life, girls aren't interested in the size of your e-peen. And you can't pay for a date with ecto. There really are more important things in life to be worrying about.

Good advice. But, "e-peen lust" (lol) can be used against either side of the argument.

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Those complaining about SF

A. Suck and can't do it
B. Too lazy to make a sin
C. Just like to QQ
D. All of the above

I'll go ahead and sink to your level by making my own list of generalizations.

Those defending SF

A. Suck and can't play the game without a 1 > 2 > 3 combo for permanent invincibility
B. Too lazy to actually play the game, make money legitimately, or develop skills/knowledge necessary to be good at the game
C. Just like to QQ
D. All of the above

Some other options include: Want to "increase their e-peen" by grinding high end areas, don't actually like the game anymore but still just do SCs for loot, and hate balance. But, I didn't include those options in the list for the sake of parallelism.

By the way, I insta-hate anyone that says "QQ" (not that any of you care about my opinion of you). But, saying QQ is often just a way of saying "you're pointing out an aspect of the game that you don't like and I disagree with you and I ran out of reasons against your complaint so I'm going to make it seem like you're whining and make myself look like an idiot at the same time."

UnChosen · Nov 27, 2009, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by Ugh

Good thinking. "A certain aspect of this game displeases me, I'm going to quit forever and go play a completely unrelated game."

Hey, the anti-SF people use the same argument whenever we brought the point up that UW (and all end game area) balanced is boring, frustrating, and not worth the reward....so its all game that we use the same illogical argument.

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Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

Why are you still playing man? Why do you stay here if you're in it only for pointless reward? Is your life so boring that repeating the same boring task for nothing worthwhile is more interesting than the outside world?
Ok, Sorry I quit that tone.

You know, the origina idea was that people would start PvP or leave (YES: LEAVE) untill the next expansion. where they would come back because the game was just better than other game they have.

The game is much more rewarding than the original (just look at the books : money, title point, and faction in Luxon/Kurzick case). And if the reward aren't worth the time and "boredom" of getting them, the time to move on has come for you. Actually as soon as the term "boredom" fit you should ty to leave, even if the rewards are worth it. You used the word yourself, it's a game.

Like this post..."if you don't like it, leave" can solve everything, right?

zwei2stein · Nov 27, 2009, 07:39 AM // 07:39

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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998

No one has still answered why doing an elite area with a speed clear hurts them in real life.

No one has still answered why doing an elite area with a speed clear helps them in real life either.

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Originally Posted by some random guy

Those complaining about SF

A. Suck and can't do it
B. Too lazy to make a sin
C. Just like to QQ
D. All of the above

Those complaining about looming SF nerf and complaints

A. Suck and can't do without it.
B. Too lazy to actually play game.
C. Just like to QQbash
D. All of the above

Cheap bad arguments are cheap and bad :-)

upier · Nov 27, 2009, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

No one has still answered why doing an elite area with a speed clear helps them in real life either.

While the "real life" argument is stupid beyond belief (because if you want to develop it further, the guys at A.Net could be looking for a cure for cancer or HIV or helping with environmental issues or hunger or ... but instead they are making VIDEO GAMES!), one could argue that speed clears will help you waste less time in a game leaving you with more time for other things.
Still, this is as relevant as asking a person how would they rather die - by a lethal injection or a shot to the head. While one is slightly less sucktastic - the end result is that you are dead in both cases.
And this argument is stupid for both sides.

zwei2stein · Nov 27, 2009, 09:58 AM // 09:58

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Originally Posted by upier

... the guys at A.Net could be looking for a cure for cancer or HIV or helping with environmental issues or hunger or ... but instead they are making VIDEO GAMES!) ...

You know, they actually could do it, just make GW client install [email protected] client too ( http://folding.stanford.edu/ ).

If that would hit ~ 50k people, it would increase project output by at least 20%.

dunky_g · Nov 27, 2009, 10:06 AM // 10:06

Speed clears hurt me in real life.

They give me a headache.

Tenebrae · Nov 27, 2009, 10:44 AM // 10:44

Hahaha i knew some random guy will come to defend SF with some nonsense stuff like this "No one has still answered why doing an elite area with a speed clear hurts them in real life" .
IN REAL LIFE ! lol CHECK it , since when the reason to balance 1 skill is that "it hurts ppl in real life" ? omg this is better than Paramount Comedy. Seriously ppl , use your brain , check the thread title . This is not a discussion to come to a solution , that "solution" is done ..... even thou not implemented yet but its coming and theres nothing that your farmer QQing can do here . Instead of showing your fear with non sense comments or arguments in favor of SF please leave the game as YOU ALL said you would do ( or happen ) if SF gets nerfed/reworked.
Im having a Deja vu with the UB nerf ....

PS: Still laughing about those who think that abusing SF requires SOME SKILL or brain cell use .

Stop The Storm · Nov 27, 2009, 10:50 AM // 10:50

all the people saying " omg press 1 2 3 "

im gonna invite you onto a guild run in DoA, lets see how you do.

deal? pm me.

you're gonna be tanking btw. screenshots will be taken and posted here on "how easy it is to press 1 2 3"

Gli · Nov 27, 2009, 11:02 AM // 11:02

They hurt me in real life too, because I'm locked away in a smelly dank dungeon deep below the ANet offices, with electrodes fixed to my testicles that shoot 50,000 volts into me whenever someone pops the underworld chest.

QueenofDeath · Nov 27, 2009, 11:32 AM // 11:32

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Originally Posted by Jk)Phoenix

It would be fun if they restore Roj and Ursans, this 2 added to SF would be 3 choices of farming for everyone... think about it...

u want faster run ever? play sin
u want easier run ever? play ursan
u want an half way between those 2? go with some lame balanceway with roj

this way kinda every profession can play, also if u are not exp'd u still have a chance to make it and ppl could discover back some interest in use again their old beloved builds lol

WTB: massive restore skills! every possible lame build avaiable! all strong, all fun, all easy, big choice!

Ummm in a word: NO!

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Arduin · Nov 27, 2009, 11:34 AM // 11:34

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Originally Posted by upier

...one could argue that speed clears will help you waste less time in a game leaving you with more time for other things.

Nah. Would you normally clear the UW in 3 hours with a 'balanced team', and in 1 hour with a SF team, people would just make 3 runs for additional shots at the endchest. Effectively wasting the same amount of real-life time.

UnChosen · Nov 27, 2009, 11:44 AM // 11:44

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

Nah. Would you normally clear the UW in 3 hours with a 'balanced team', and in 1 hour with a SF team, people would just make 3 runs for additional shots at the endchest. Effectively wasting the same amount of real-life time.

Now include all of the time spent forming a "balanced" pug, all the D/Cs, and wipes....3 hours increases to 6 hours or more. With speed clears, my limit to repeating is only about 3 hours. I do have a life you know....therefore "balanced" is worthless to me (and probably most players not on forums).

Davros Uitar · Nov 27, 2009, 12:25 PM // 12:25

QQ is pointless - nerf has been announced - time to put on the man pants and get over it.

Lets face it, this topic is now only about self interest. If you use SF a lot you lament the impending inevitable demise out of self interest. It you use it little or not at all you cheer for "game balance" with a maybe small or maybe large side portion of self interest.

It won't be all that long till there will be a new PVE meta. I rejoice in that. I think that PVE gets stale because there is less rotation of balance than you get in PvP. I would be happy to see regular balances, shifting meta builds and to play guild wars never sure which of my 10 classes was going to get to play on the next run.

In that respect, the bear, and now SF were allowed to rule the meta for too long. That is why most of the QQ exists. No change for so long leads to an expectation that people have a right to see the status quo maintained. Lets hope that they don't let the next meta rule for as long as the last 2.

Tyla · Nov 27, 2009, 12:36 PM // 12:36

Jesus Christ, is all of this discussion still going on?

Steps_Descending · Nov 27, 2009, 12:50 PM // 12:50

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Originally Posted by UnChosen

Hey, the anti-SF people use the same argument whenever we brought the point up that UW (and all end game area) balanced is boring, frustrating, and not worth the reward....so its all game that we use the same illogical argument.

Like this post..."if you don't like it, leave" can solve everything, right?

Who knows? For some convoluted reason, most people have in their mind that GW is a game and that game are meant to have fun. Well there's also that they seem to think boring and frustrating are antithesis to fun. God knows where they got that from! Geez people are weird.

OH Hai! welcome back Tyla!
Yeah A couple of eternity later, Sf is still QQ-ed about. History repeats itself or so they say.

BlackSephir · Nov 27, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by Stop The Storm

you're gonna be tanking

TANK N SPANK.
People like this really understand how GW works.

moriz · Nov 27, 2009, 01:40 PM // 13:40

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Originally Posted by thedukesd

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it's been a long time since i've read anything as stupid. casters out damaging assassins in hardmode? yeah right. way to post a wall of text full of nonsense.